Hello, I have a Dean milivolt fryer that has been in storage for a couple of years. Had this problem when burner would shut off would back fire and blow pilot out.mi changed tstat, hi limit and gas valve and cleaned burners. Every component needs to be tested after something like that. Any idea of what may be wrong? This short commercial deep fryer troubleshooting guide will aid you in determining the right fixes for three most common fryer faults, plus keep your customers happy, full and coming back for more. Although this is a new fryer the orifice may be blocked (I have seen this happen before). Hi Martha, Hi everyone: I have a frymaster deep fryer….70’s era…..it was converted from natural gas to propane…but they didnt change the pilot assembly for propane…..when it ignites the propane it is violent…..I think because the propane is heavier than air and fills up more inside the compartment before it ignites the propane……the flame goes straight up about 4 inches or so…………where can I get the correct pilot assembly? Thanks. Thanks for the explanation. The pilot works but as soon as I turn the knob to the ON position, the burner fires up and the thermostat basically has no effect at all. Then it sounds as though once the combo valve gets a little warm it is not opening enough to allow enough gas for the burners to reignite. Hi i have a imperial Deepfat fryer when it lights after a month or so it builds up a lot of black suds can you tell me what is wrong. Everything seems to work properly except when we are in a rush and the fryer is working hard, it starts making a high pitched whine that resinates throughout the restaurant. Thanks in advance. Remove the top screw where it says “pilot adjustment” and get a smaller flat head screwdriver to loosen the screw inside. Did you find a solution to this? On your Gold Medal it could be one of two problems. If they are bad you can get what you need from Tundra direct or at etundra.com Part #41274 for the screw in type or Part#41273 for the two lead type. Much appreciate, The fryer has the Company name “ACE” printed on it so I though it was ACE trading in UK but they told me they don’t supply Gas fryers. That requires a pretty sensitive instrument that’s going to cost you some money. Hello Greg , The strange thing is that the sound stops when we open the door of the fryer. Please help. When the gas is on, the unit will function fine for a couple days. Hey all,I have a american range af-45 (about 10 yrs old) it’s holding flame for aprox. There might be a shorted out wire somewhere–we recommend you call Cecilware tech support ASAP to troubleshoot. You are right, thermostat dead, changed another one working, but has other problem, the flame too strong, don’t know where to adjust pressure, look on the manual came with product, did not show the pressure setting. Without having more information, I can’t say if there’s an issue with the regulator as well. hi i was just wandering if any one can tell me if there is any one teaching or if there is any where were i can do a cours for fixing deep fat fryers in ireland or GB. I want someone to come and give it a good clean, but i have spent 2 days scouring the web to no avail, any ideas? The flame and soot is worse than ever. The pilot light stays lit, but when I turn my thermostat dial it makes an initial click and the burners will not fire up. To fix this you can replace the thermostat or if you’re handy you can clean it out. Fryer Fix: First, turn off the flame — you don’t want to fry your hands! I have the same problem on my pitco fryer. Tundra Restaurant Supply features over 60,000 products including restaurant supplies, equipment and equipment parts , a sweet eCommerce site with all the bells and whistles, a whole restaurant design and opening package team, low prices without sacrificing quality and more smart customer service reps than you can shake a stick at. When I turned the thermostat off,with the little flames blown out by me, I was able to relight them with a lighter. Suggestions? Or it related with the oil leak? 2nd quest: While on the ON position I turn the temp knob and nothing happens. what should the inches of water column be on the manafold comming out of the gas valve? Probably just need to get the large tank filled and all my problems are solved. We have been arguing with the company as it is under warrant but they refuse to budge and state we must have dry fired the system – which we definitely did not do! hi there paul thanks for that info but i cant find the company anywhere on the net , are they still in existence and if so can you direct me to there website , thanks andrew. Replacing high limit and thermostat are probably not worth it since you can buy new for only a few hundred dollars more. Also do you have a regulator on the propane tank and the fryers? Either soot in the burner tubes or a restriction/blockage of the exhaust .flue. Got a Pitco SG 14 been running fine 2 years . Any other suggestions? Sounds like the combination safety valve is not opening. By resetting the hi-limit and relighting the pilot and it stays lit, then you will know that the thermostat is not good. A partial blockage, however, may allow the burner to light but will not provide enough fuel to keep it lit. waranty. If you do not have either let me know and I can fax or email you one. If it is plugged that could be causing the problem. I would double check that you installed the gas valve in the correct direction, double check that the thermopile you’re using is functional, and double check the installation on the hi-limit. Do you have the correct safety valve for that unit? So the only other thing I’m left to wonder about is if the orifices are too big and are letting too much gas out. I don’t know how old my fryer is, at least 4 years. what should i do when my vulcan deep fryer pilot keeps going out . One of the pilots has a tiny flame that can barely sustain itself and won’t heat the thermopile, the other doesn’t produce any flame at all. Unfortunately, there is no easy way to fix a tank leak on a fryer. Unfortunately there is no way we know of to fix pitted stainless. I had a technician tell me that the burners needed replacing. I do not know thermostat can be wrong again just half year? I took the wires out to bypass the high safety switch, no luck. My fryer model is moffat. Give us a call at 888-388-6372 or contact us online for more info. It’s hard to say what’s causing that sound Don. If moisture gets into it it can short it out causing the unit to shut down. Had a gas company out today and they tested the pressure on the unit and it fluctuated while on from 5.8 to 7 in water column and the manual says 7 + or – 2 is in the range. Any ideas? I bought a new thermopile but am hesitant to install it as im not sure that this will solve the issue and it seems like a long process. Disconnect the gas tube from the bottom of the pilot and drop out the orifice and make sure the hole is not blocked. It could be that when you filled the tank that some debris got into the pilot orifice. It’s not the easiest job in the world. If the pilot will not stay lit, then the first thing you’ll need to do is replace the thermopile. I received the new safety valve. Sorry I can’t be more help! If it stays on then you will need to replace the hi limit. There’s a small plunger in the combination safety valve that is pushed open to allow gas to flow and shuts when gas is turned off. Hi, Tundra can provide a wiring diagram for which ever valve you have even with out a model number. Its been operating for atleast a few years with these leaks which are about 2 fl ounces in a 24hr period. Note that the millivolt generator (Thermopile) is connected to the common of the gas valve and another wire to the high limit. Hope this helps. Hey Luke, We set it to 350 and in about 10 minutes or less the whole thing goes out. Unit has a new ignition module,gas valve and thermostat. Glad we could help! This problem began this year. I had someone looked at it yesterday and the guy told me he never saw a fryer ignition system like that. Either the thermostat or the combination safety are defective. I have dealt with this many times on new and old imperial/elite fryers. hi all ive got an lpg PITCO GAS FRYER 35C and ever since owning it ,it has left black soot around the burners and floor area also very orange flame with no roar as its ignited the only way i can sort of hold it back is by sandblasting the manifold every 3 months to clean out the holes ok thats fine but A is that a normal thing B yes its been gas checked C does anyone else suffer D im a mobile caterer and only have my fryers on for a couple hors at a time … ive spoken to pitco and they said sorry no help ive just changed gas suppliers to calor i was using flo gas thats helped a bit any clues PLEEEEEEAAAASSSSSSSEEEEE thanks in desperation gary. Clean this bulb off with emery cloth or fine sand paper because often times it will get build up on the bulb and it won't sense the flame as time goes on causing the flame to shut off. They light and fire up fine, they come to temp fine. Thank you. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news… But you can check out new fryers here: commercial fryers. Turn the gas valve and let the pilot burn for about 2 minutes. I once worked on a fryer and all I did was replace all the wires that had been soaking in grease for years and it worked just fine after that. A malfunctioning pilot light is one of the most common commercial kitchen woes and prohibits your fryer burners from heating up. You may be able to rent a water column gauge from a local equipment rental place. The front of the fryer gets really hot and burns the oil on the top of the pan. Hi… I have a Royal Range 50 pounds fryer… Whenever I turn it on the flames of the burners tend to go to the front part of the fryer instead of going straight to the tank where the oil is… We cleaned the whole fryer upside down but the issue persist… What’s going on? It is opening but not quite fast enough to allow enough gas through to ignite all the burners at the same time. Mark, Pitco has a great Tech Support team that can help you troubleshoot your fryer. Thanks again for your help! I have a fryer and the flames are coming all out of the back of fryer when turned on , also when turned on it hesitatethen the flames shoot out. This is also a double fryer and one has the problem, the other is fine. I have the same problem. You’re bypassing gas somehow, and may need to consult with Pitco directly to help them walk you through the issue. Some burners may look clear but over time carbon builds up in the holes and needs to cleaned out. fires up, runs a minute or two and then shuts down. Hello, How Maintained Commercial Kitchens Make Better Food, CPS Is Ohio’s Authorized Service Agent To Install, Start-Up & Maintain Perlick Commercial Beer Tap Systems, 5 Deep Fryer Problems (and the Simple Solutions). If the pilot light goes out, repeat steps 5-9. I’ve got an AF-45 American range fryer and the flames are lazy. To test them the ends of them need to be heated of course and then touch the other end with one lead and go to the capillary or ground with the other lead if it is a single screw in thermopile. Not knowing the model of the unit does it have a red reset button and do you have to reset it to be able to light the pilot again? I have a 40lb Natural Gas Fryolator that runs up to 400 plus degrees without the main burners running. It does not need oil in it to fire. clean them out also have propane. on one of them the probes tend to fail (the last one only lasted 3months and is barely used), it says prob on the screen, but will sometimes start up fine then say prob. we need new gas valve. It does seem to take longer for it to stay lit while holding the pilot knob. On the leaking problem, it sounds like the stainless steel portion of the tank is slowly cracking due to metal fatigue (from constant heating and cooling). I’ve an American Range deep fryer. They will replace the basket but will not cover the labour. If you need help finding the right thermopile for your equipment, give our team a call at 888-388-6372 or use our Live Chat feature on our site and we’ll direct you to the right place! The amber pilot light will also cycle on and off with the thermostat. It’s called a Fenwal thermostat. Hello i have a cecielware GF28 countertop what would be the best way to clean the carbon? Hey, I had the same problem! You can test the hi limit by connecting the hi limit wires together (by passing the hi limit) if the burner continues to burn then it is defective. Hi, I’m not sure on the exact model but we were having issues and basically replaced all the guts (Gas Valve, Thermo and hi limit) Now, we lit the pilot and when the thermo finally gets red hot it holds the pilot on but when we engage the temp control it instantly cuts out and the pilot also goes out. I took the burners out and blew them out and hosed out the burner tubes and flue and that helped for a short amount of time. Hi, Second if they did was all of the water out of it before it was filled with oil? I’ve heard it could be the regulator. The system uses millivolt type gas valve. We have a pitco and Dean having trouble with both sooting up . After replacing said parts, the pilot comes on and stays on, the fryer burners ignite, but it still will not turn off when the appropriate temperature is reached. If the pilot light will not stay lit, 1 of 3 things have failed: If the pilot is lit, but the fryer still does not work, the thermostat may be faulty. Sorry I am don’t have more technical information. That is where I would start. Pls tell me what the remedy is . It’s possible there is a way to convert it, but we’re not quite sure how. Are you ready for some of these hot new trends we are predicting? It’s possible that the regulator needs replacement or adjusting. The next step would be to remove the burners from the unit and use an orifice cleaning tool to make sure each burner hole is clear of carbon buildup. I tried to clean the pilot with compressed air and that didnt seem to have any effect. For a month we tried everything we could think of. I have to use a special heavy duty chemical called “carbon off” to remove the residue and this stuff has to be sprayed on while wearing a mask and be left to sit overnight so it comes off in the morning. If your burner lights for a short time but then goes out, you may have a blockage in the gas valve. If you do then they need to take the pilot orifice out of the pilot assy and make sure there is no blockage. As you can see by the chart the ambient temperature has a lot to do with the pressure on either size bottle. I had the sam eproblem with carbon biulding up on a pitco fryer, you need to adjust your gas line pressure and this will stop the problem. I haven’t heard of nor can I find a model 400+ss. When I reconnected the wires, I went fire for wire, one part at a time. I have a problem with a pitco 35c=S fryer. We purchased in it in 2013 and it has been fine. The pilot lit is working absolutely fine, but as soon as I switch on the thermostat the pilot lit is switched off and the burner didn’t work. Took fryer burners out and cleaned again had alot of really light black stuff in them. Gas supply seems fine. If yours is like this, what you can’t see is that at the end of the venturi tubes is a screen that dust and kitchen debris build up and block the flow, so some of the gas makes it threw and some stacks up and explodes in the tube. I fixed it by cleaning the thermocouple. At no other point through out the day as it regulates it’s temp does this happen. I have seen this happen when there is water in the oil. Hi, I was wondering if you could confirm two troubleshooting issues and potential fixes for me. Hi, When the pilot is lit it is a strong pilot. I’m not sure on the proper terms…. Pitco said to make sure the unit was at least 6 feet from the regulator so we added pipe, we tested the voltages and they were in range and had the gas pressure tested which was at 7 inch water column. What should I be looking for? One of it is broken. Sounds like the thermopile is not staying hot enough. I have also learned that those standard single-body regulators sold for LP gas grills are not great and often slightly too high pressure for the fryer, sometimes the gas is delivered so quickly it blows the pilot right out. I have not heard of anyone having this problem. Would you replace the thermostat and sensor going into the tank? One, you may need to hold the button in longer to bleed out the air in the pilot tube. To see if they could give you further insight. If it does not then the combo valve is bad. It depends on what you mean by wire. Ran out of propane the other day, got bottle filled, but now gas won’t come thriough to pilot when depressed to light.. First, check every wire in the unit and make sure that none of them are exposed and touching any bare metal of the unit. When I tried to turn on the fryer the ignite won’t lit, I don’t know if it is the thermostat or the thermopile causing problem. Do you know which part is broken? Thanks a lot. I was reading Gerald’s problem. It may be that the pilot flame is dropping down to a low flame during use or the thermopile may not be far enough into the flame. i had change the thermopile, but still not fixed the problem………. When the wrench is opened to the desired distance, the thumb nuts are tightened. Hey Jessica, Get a good flashlight and look into the burner tubes (the fire chamber, as you called them). Test for Gas Leaks. but 5 or 10 mins later it shut off everything. Look on the orifice and you should see a number on it. Set the thermostat to 300 degrees and watch the thermometer. The typical gas fryer will have a fuse(or not) a limit, and a control thermostat. If that doesn’t work you’re going to have to replace the combination safety valve, but the thermopile should do the trick. Take a look through there and see if you can get a resolution. Hi Miles, Glad to hear the thermostat helped. I have a pitco fryer… The pilot on my fryer stays on. Great Blog, very informative. The piolt wont stay lit at all. The parts you would need Depending on what gas type you have are: Check in side the vents wall you may find some grease, it cause smoke at first and follow with the flame that what happen to my Fry master. I have a Pitco fryer that my local gas company hooked up for me. The orifices are number 36. It is located right next to the thermostat. I have a Pitco SG14R friolator. Am I correct in thinking this a thermostat problem? The are natural gas fryers that we bought used a few months ago. This chart should help you covert into what you need. If you have a monthly maintenance plan, they should add that to their list about twice a year. Even though these are the most common commercial deep fryer problems, there are others that only a trained technician can solve. If it does then you should change the combo valve. OR the combination safety valve is bad or the thermostat is bad – but only if it is a GS type thermostat. That’s unfortunate. But they look jaggedin some spots from perhaps age? I’m surprised it developed a leak so quickly, but in general, when a leak develops it is because of metal fatigue from constant heating and cooling and patching won’t change the fact that the metal is worn. Sorry for the delay I just got back from vacation. It sounds like your thermostat needs to be replaced. 07801 471981. Needs to be cleaned out? The little flames were still there. Hey Don, Try checking that and see if that helps you. Thank you very much. i have an imperial f40. When we went to start fryer back up it would not light. I have a pitco fryer. I have an imperial elite fryer. I’ve been on the phone with the AR techs and they don’t know what to tell me. Tim, we’re not quite sure what is going on here.
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